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Post by Make it Rain on May 19, 2007 11:21:47 GMT
I've witnessed plenty of wutliss parents within our community.
Parents that are suppose to be raisingeducated, well mannered, decent young people, who are the future.
Now, if you have a mother whom is so caught up in the "designer lifestyle" does anything from stealing to selling her pussy to be in the latest wears, what example is this to set your daughter or son?
I've watched mothers in dance boasting about "big up their pickney dem" and in the same sentence laugh about they've just come out of jail  what the fukk is up with that?
Now, I've known parents that encourage their child to sell narcotics, as long as their getting a piece of the profits they don't give a fukk
I can go on and on with this...
Some Parents need to wake up and raise their children right
Your child could be a future lawyer, doctor,nurse etc
Just remember that
Don't let them turn out to be a waste of space like YOU
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Post by motherof3 on Nov 8, 2007 16:13:06 GMT
Hello make it rain.
i agree with your last post but on the other hand you have parents like myself who take very good care of their kids in every way only to have this idiotic system ruin it all.
my two oldest children ages 8 and 10 was taken into care last year because they were late for school.
prior to their removal they went to saturady school, they did the same work i did back home as a child as well as attending other after school activites on a daily basis at my expence.
since they were taken away they have been put into a class for slow children( not because they are slow but social services say that is standard procedure for children taken into care)
social services have also stopped all their out of school activites including saturday school and the extra wrok they have been doing over the years.
now my children are unable to read fluently and they have fallen behind.
most of the kids educated in this country are basically stupid. the work they do here for children aged 8 for example is the work that we would be given at age 5 back home.
although i went to the odd party here and there my life revolved around my children. i never had the luxury of having a lay in. Everyday of the week i had to ttake them somewhere, either educational or some type of out of school activites.
sometimes its not the parents its the system in this counrty that ruins the children.
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Post by k on Nov 9, 2007 9:57:19 GMT
Hello make it rain.
i agree with your last post but on the other hand you have parents like myself who take very good care of their kids in every way only to have this idiotic system ruin it all.
my two oldest children ages 8 and 10 was taken into care last year because they were late for school.
prior to their removal they went to saturady school, they did the same work i did back home as a child as well as attending other after school activites on a daily basis at my expence.
since they were taken away they have been put into a class for slow children( not because they are slow but social services say that is standard procedure for children taken into care)
social services have also stopped all their out of school activites including saturday school and the extra wrok they have been doing over the years.
now my children are unable to read fluently and they have fallen behind.
most of the kids educated in this country are basically stupid. the work they do here for children aged 8 for example is the work that we would be given at age 5 back home.
although i went to the odd party here and there my life revolved around my children. i never had the luxury of having a lay in. Everyday of the week i had to ttake them somewhere, either educational or some type of out of school activites.
sometimes its not the parents its the system in this counrty that ruins the children. I totally agree with everyting u said about social service and children in care they think they know what good for kids but they have not got a clue.some kids go 2 them and then turn worst becos the kid or left 2 to what they want... |
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Post by WHY on Nov 9, 2007 15:51:27 GMT
Hello make it rain.
i agree with your last post but on the other hand you have parents like myself who take very good care of their kids in every way only to have this idiotic system ruin it all.
my two oldest children ages 8 and 10 was taken into care last year because they were late for school.
prior to their removal they went to saturady school, they did the same work i did back home as a child as well as attending other after school activites on a daily basis at my expence.
since they were taken away they have been put into a class for slow children( not because they are slow but social services say that is standard procedure for children taken into care)
social services have also stopped all their out of school activites including saturday school and the extra wrok they have been doing over the years.
now my children are unable to read fluently and they have fallen behind.
most of the kids educated in this country are basically stupid. the work they do here for children aged 8 for example is the work that we would be given at age 5 back home.
although i went to the odd party here and there my life revolved around my children. i never had the luxury of having a lay in. Everyday of the week i had to ttake them somewhere, either educational or some type of out of school activites.
sometimes its not the parents its the system in this counrty that ruins the children. I have one question for you..... WHY WAS THE KIDS LATE FOR SCHOOL??? |
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 9, 2007 20:21:52 GMT
Late for school?  Are you being serious or trying to tek peeple fi fool? Your children must of been late for school on a continuation basis and not just "once" as you are insinuating And other factors were probably looked at as well ie: If the children seemed tired at school dues to lack of sleep, looking untidy etc Teachers at school look at all these things and keep a log. Plus were probably contacted by social services on many occasions, before your children were taken into care.... So stop trying to push the blame w L heartedly on the system and take some responsibility. The system can't get to your child if you don't allow them to. Remember they always waiting for "us" to slip and trip. And one slip and trip is one too many... |
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Post by roses crew on Nov 11, 2007 21:02:10 GMT
Hello make it rain.
i agree with your last post but on the other hand you have parents like myself who take very good care of their kids in every way only to have this idiotic system ruin it all.
my two oldest children ages 8 and 10 was taken into care last year because they were late for school.
prior to their removal they went to saturady school, they did the same work i did back home as a child as well as attending other after school activites on a daily basis at my expence.
since they were taken away they have been put into a class for slow children( not because they are slow but social services say that is standard procedure for children taken into care)
social services have also stopped all their out of school activites including saturday school and the extra wrok they have been doing over the years.
now my children are unable to read fluently and they have fallen behind.
most of the kids educated in this country are basically stupid. the work they do here for children aged 8 for example is the work that we would be given at age 5 back home.
although i went to the odd party here and there my life revolved around my children. i never had the luxury of having a lay in. Everyday of the week i had to ttake them somewhere, either educational or some type of out of school activites.
sometimes its not the parents its the system in this counrty that ruins the children. sorry to hear about what happened to your kids www.fassit.co.uk/check out that link maybe they can help |
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Post by Why on Nov 12, 2007 16:02:25 GMT
Late for school? Are you being serious or trying to tek peeple fi fool? Your children must of been late for school on a continuation basis and not just "once" as you are insinuating And other factors were probably looked at as well ie: If the children seemed tired at school dues to lack of sleep, looking untidy etc Teachers at school look at all these things and keep a log. Plus were probably contacted by social services on many occasions, before your children were taken into care.... So stop trying to push the blame w L heartedly on the system and take some responsibility. The system can't get to your child if you don't allow them to. Remember they always waiting for "us" to slip and trip. And one slip and trip is one too many... A dat me a seh! You see all now she cyaan come back and give us an answer as to why de pickney dem late? And it HAD to be cronic lateness, ongoing, everyday fe de government come tek de pickney dem outta har house. She is very wutless in my opinion....  |
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Post by True on Nov 13, 2007 4:52:11 GMT
Fight for your children and dont pay these people no mine..
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Post by WHY on Nov 13, 2007 17:08:54 GMT
Fight for your children and dont pay these people no mine.. If she did fight fe send har pickney dem to school on time in the first place, she would not have to be fighting nobaddy! You are encouraging har in slackness. She fe buck up and change har ways. No, true??!! |
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 13, 2007 18:32:23 GMT
Fight for your children and dont pay these people no mine.. If she did fight fe send har pickney dem to school on time in the first place, she would not have to be fighting nobaddy! You are encouraging har in slackness. She fe buck up and change har ways. No, true??!! Yes that's very true WHY But I most warn you that there are a few on here on here that don't take to lightly to those that have common sense. They rather cuss and gossip then discuss issues that are of any importance. Have a nice day!  |
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Post by motherof3 on Nov 13, 2007 21:40:21 GMT
Hello again
thanks for all the comments and sorry for the delay in responding.
Firstly to answer why's question- my kids were late on some occasions as we were at the time living a great distance from the school and the school was aware of this.
take yuh mind offa me........ its not about taking anyone for fool but it is about raising awareness on how the system is being run.
Its no longer about child protection. Its all about making easy mony by destroying families for no good reason.
your reaction to what i said is understandable.
If a parent told me they had this experience 1 year ago, i would tell them where to get off as i belived that social services was there to help children and familes and not rip them apart unless there is obvious signs of neglect, emotional, physical or sexual abuse in or around the home.
My children were not constantly late for school to the extent that their educational need were being neglected. even if that was the case the school have a duty to inform parents in writing about concerns relating to their children.
I had no letters from the school about lateness. also there is something called the education welfare departmet who will prosecute parents who allow their children to be constantly late or even worse miss school on a regular basis.
that was not done either.
social services claim that they were concerned about my children being late for school during January 2006 to July 2006. that does not explain why they would take the children on those grounds in December of 2006.
5 months after they took my children, social services and the educational welfare department to went to court in my absence to obtain a conviction under Section.444 of the Education Act.
the court granted a conviction in respect of one child-------- which again is very odd as my children attend the same school and whatever the case would both arrive at the same time.
the court ordered that i pay a fine of 200 pounds. that amount has not been paid as i am appealing the decision to go ahead with that in my absence and without my knowledge.
My children have do not go to school tired and they were always well presented. I take pride in my appearance and that of my children. No one can dispute that.
social services are to be blamed fully for destroying my children lives in the way they have done for their own benifit.
My children have been late to school and to be collected from school on a number occasion since being in care.
since they were taken away they have moves to at least 5 different homes which is very unsetteling especially to children.
at this time we dont know if they have contracted tuberculosis as one of the foster cares is infected.
they now have filling in almost every teeth,
they hardly wash,
it is also understood that one of them was allowed to sleep naked on a number of occasion while the other wore no underwear to school and everywhere else.
now the children are not allowed to see their family or talk to them on the phone, they are feeling confused, isolated and extremly distressed by what is going on.
they have said they feel like prisioners, they feel like they are being punished, their life is a misery, they are angry, they have threatned suicide and dont understand why they cant go home.
the list can go on.........
I don't know who in their right mind would even consider insinuating that children or familes deserve to experience this type of horrendous ordeal simply because of late or non attandance.
Plese Note: That when a child is late they are recorded as only being at school half day.
The point i was making in my fisrt post still remain. The system is responsible for the majority of problematic kids out there--not the parents.
Most of the prison population were in the care of social services as a child.
Roses-------- thanks for the link. i am familiar with fassit. their forum was closed down few weeks ago.  i guess they exposed too many corrupt officals. 
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Post by motherof3 on Nov 13, 2007 21:40:37 GMT
True and k--------
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 13, 2007 22:25:50 GMT
Ok, Mother of 3 I will like to make an apology to you. I came at you a bot harsh and I'm truly sorry for that. Now that you have gone in depth about your situation, I can now see the picture clearly and fully understand your story. There's many things I want to type right now, but I wont bother because I would be here all night and probably get cursed from some unsuspecting females One thing I will say is this, "they" have managed to break down the family structure dynamics (which is (the family dynamics) totally different today then it was in my grandparents day), this (your situation) is just the next step to ensure that the cycle continues at even greater magnitude. |
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Post by sp on Nov 15, 2007 10:52:54 GMT
Hello make it rain.
i agree with your last post but on the other hand you have parents like myself who take very good care of their kids in every way only to have this idiotic system ruin it all.
my two oldest children ages 8 and 10 was taken into care last year because they were late for school.
prior to their removal they went to saturady school, they did the same work i did back home as a child as well as attending other after school activites on a daily basis at my expence.
since they were taken away they have been put into a class for slow children( not because they are slow but social services say that is standard procedure for children taken into care)
social services have also stopped all their out of school activites including saturday school and the extra wrok they have been doing over the years.
now my children are unable to read fluently and they have fallen behind.
most of the kids educated in this country are basically stupid. the work they do here for children aged 8 for example is the work that we would be given at age 5 back home.
although i went to the odd party here and there my life revolved around my children. i never had the luxury of having a lay in. Everyday of the week i had to ttake them somewhere, either educational or some type of out of school activites.
sometimes its not the parents its the system in this counrty that ruins the children. Sorry to hear this, BUT if i'm correct. The school won't get social services involved just for being late, unless it was a constant lateness OR your children were absent from school on numerous occasion without you given them reasons for this which they call unauthorized lateness/absents. Yes the system doesn't work in our favour especially for black children, but you can't put all the blame on the system. You as the mother have to ask yourself what is it that YOU had sone for your children to be in this situation. The school curriculum is a joke, but as i told a lot of mothers, don't leave it up to the school to teach your children. Do it yourself. My daughter just turned 5 and the things that she is learning in her class, she already knows because i taught her. I don't have time to wait for the school to teach my child how to read. That's my job. Hope your children aren't too effected by the system. |
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Post by sp on Nov 15, 2007 10:55:19 GMT
Late for school? Are you being serious or trying to tek peeple fi fool? Your children must of been late for school on a continuation basis and not just "once" as you are insinuating And other factors were probably looked at as well ie: If the children seemed tired at school dues to lack of sleep, looking untidy etc Teachers at school look at all these things and keep a log. Plus were probably contacted by social services on many occasions, before your children were taken into care.... So stop trying to push the blame w L heartedly on the system and take some responsibility. The system can't get to your child if you don't allow them to. Remember they always waiting for "us" to slip and trip. And one slip and trip is one too many... Endorsed to the fullest.  |
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Post by sp on Nov 15, 2007 11:03:00 GMT
Fight for your children and dont pay these people no mine.. If she did fight fe send har pickney dem to school on time in the first place, she would not have to be fighting nobaddy! You are encouraging har in slackness. She fe buck up and change har ways. No, true??!! And i'm sure when her children started school, they told her and it would have been written in her welcome pack the rules and regulations of the school. Far too many parents just drop off dem pickney and they don't have a clue as to what is going on the the school. What a shame. |
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Post by sp on Nov 15, 2007 11:05:08 GMT
If she did fight fe send har pickney dem to school on time in the first place, she would not have to be fighting nobaddy! You are encouraging har in slackness. She fe buck up and change har ways. No, true??!! Yes that's very true WHY But I most warn you that there are a few on here on here that don't take to lightly to those that have common sense. They rather cuss and gossip then discuss issues that are of any importance. Have a nice day! ;D ;D |
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Post by sp on Nov 15, 2007 11:37:53 GMT
Fight for your children. it's not too late. Good luck. |
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 15, 2007 14:55:28 GMT
Wow! Sp you really broke it down Yes there's inconsistencies, conflicts and contradictions in her story, which I already saw BUT couldn't be bothered to even try or begin to tackle them. The thing, Mother_of_3 needs to do is take a good look at what SHE herself done wrong. For it to reach the stage where she was taken to court and persecuted under the Education act section 444, it must of been pretty serious (Please note only parents whom children doesn't attend school regular are persecuted under this act). I know for a fact that when you are persecuted under this act you are either senstenced to serve time in prison OR have to pay a fine and sign an agreement that your children's attendance will improve IF you don't comply with this I guess they take the next step. And mother of 3 didn't pay the fine, as she had stated. Absent or NOT you were most definitely informed about the court proceedings. After all they are persecuting YOU under the Education act. They went ahead with the proceedings, because YOU failed to attend. It seems to me, is that you didn't take it all that serious and thought you could bury your head in the sand. I maybe wrong here BUT that's how it's coming across. @ Mother of 3 I have a few questions for you, which I hope you don't mind answering: 1) I'm assuming that you have three children as your poster name states. You said that only two of your children are in care, so do you still have custody of your third child? 2) Your two children have been in care since last year December, that's nearly a year. Isn't there any plans of the state returning your children to you? By the way, sorry if I'm across a bit harsh again. I'm just a very passionate person |
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Post by WHY on Nov 15, 2007 15:56:40 GMT
I am sorry but this story has too many L s and inconsistances for me to address or point out. I still think the mother is largely to blame and that social services may have been over zealious in this case but at this point I can only pray for the kids.
They are foremost in my prayers and I pray for a good outcome for them.
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Post by parent on Nov 15, 2007 16:57:44 GMT
I am sorry but this story has too many L s and inconsistances for me to address or point out. I still think the mother is largely to blame and that social services may have been over zealious in this case but at this point I can only pray for the kids. They are foremost in my prayers and I pray for a good outcome for them.
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 15, 2007 17:58:32 GMT
Mother of 3, I wish you had made a separate thread about your situation, instead of posting it in a thread titled "wutliss parents"
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Post by parent on Nov 15, 2007 18:32:22 GMT
Mother of 3, I wish you had made a separate thread about your situation, instead of posting it in a thread titled "wutliss parents"
my kids are in care. that dosen't mean i'm worthless |
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 15, 2007 18:44:52 GMT
Mother of 3, I wish you had made a separate thread about your situation, instead of posting it in a thread titled "wutliss parents"
my kids are in care. that dosen't mean i'm worthlessAnd reading what the thread starter had written, I highly doubt that she/he were trying to say ALL parents are wutliss. Actually he/she gave an example to what a wutliss parents is. And honey sorry to say BUT many would say that any mother that allows their children to be taken into care is "WUTLISS". Not saying this is my opinion, because I know that children are taken into care for many different reasons and are often removed from the family home without valid reasons and substantial evidence. And if you don't mind answering (I understand if you don't want to) Why are your children in care? |
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Post by parent on Nov 15, 2007 19:07:23 GMT
not all parents are worthless and i think that's the point she was trying to make.
my kids are in care. that dosen't mean i'm worthless And reading what the thread starter had written, I highly doubt that she/he were trying to say ALL parents are wutliss. Actually he/she gave an example to what a wutliss parents is. And honey sorry to say BUT many would say that any mother that allows their children to be taken into care is "WUTLISS". And if you don't mind answering (I understand if you don't want to) Why are your children in care? |
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 15, 2007 19:25:39 GMT
And reading what the thread starter had written, I highly doubt that she/he were trying to say ALL parents are wutliss. Actually he/she gave an example to what a wutliss parents is. And if you don't mind answering (I understand if you don't want to) Why are your children in care? Honey, if you didn't want to answer my question, all you had to do was simply tell me "it's non of your business" instead of coming with some bullshit which you cannot support. If YOU feel I have no knowledge or experience in such situations, explain it to me. Learning is supposed to be shared and is most definitely NOT a waste of time. Maybe YOUR story alongside Mother of 3's can make people more aware. But hey you refused to answer my question, so I wont push the issue. Mother of 3 gave an example of what many people in society will call a "WUTLISS" parent. As I've said before many will think she is "WUTLISS". The state thought she was WUTLISS and that's the reason why her two precious children are NOW in care. |
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Post by parent on Nov 15, 2007 19:35:27 GMT
go educate yourself on child collection issues in this country. pardon me i meant to say child protection but child collection is what it is.
the state to have to think a parent is worthless to take their kids.
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Post by parent on Nov 15, 2007 19:36:40 GMT
[the state dont have to think a parent is worthless to take their kids. /size]
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Post by Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi on Nov 15, 2007 19:49:01 GMT
go educate yourself on child collection issues in this country. pardon me i meant to say child protection but child collection is what it is.
the state to have to think a parent is worthless to take their kids. What is there to educate myself on, what I don't already know? The law regarding child protection or the "dark side"... Let me know, because that Freudian slip, suggests you are hinting on the "dark side"... I honestly would like to hear you story so I can have a better understanding. I don't expect you to go into full detail BUT the reason why your children in care and how long they have been in care would be enough. I'm intrigued! |
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Post by sabrina on Nov 15, 2007 19:50:18 GMT
Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi
I have 3 questions for you if you dont mind?
- Do you have kids?
- How would you feel if you kids were taken away for being late?
- And do you think this can never happer to someone like you?
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what the fukk is up with that?
i guess they exposed too many corrupt officals. 
