Wutliss parets

[Make it Rain]

My, My, My. No one replied in my thread when I made it a few weeks ago and look at it now. ;DTotal derailment like a train wreckage. Let me make it perfectly clear to those that are unable to understand simple English . When I made this thread, I was not talking about children that are taken into care or talking about children that are failed by the system. I was talking about parents that fail their own children. Parents that are no good parents and in turn raise rotton, no good, bad mannered children. Let me repeat I was not talking about the system failing children or children being snatched into care, I was talking about parents that fail children. So I really don't understand how this thread got turned into something. Nice read nevertheless.

[really]

you are correct make it rain
you made this thread some time ago, no one replied. after mother of 3 stated her opinions things spun out of control. i guess the point mother of 3 was trying to make is that not all parents are worthless. the state is responsible for the majority of badly bahaved and dislocated children out there.

[Make it Rain]

really said:

you are correct make it rain
you made this thread some time ago, no one replied. after mother of 3 stated her opinions things spun out of control. i guess the point mother of 3 was trying to make is that not all parents are worthless. the state is responsible for the majority of badly bahaved and dislocated children out there.

Well she made a bad comparison there on her part, because I was specifically talking about bad parents and gave an example and that's why this thread is titled "wutliss parents" There's many of them in our community. Obviously they are good parents who do everything in their power to raise their children right, but still their child turns out to be rotten because of par pressure or involvement of the system, I wasn't talking about those one's. I'm talking about wutliss parents who encourage their children to steal, sell drugs, show them a lifestyle that children should not be seeing. That's what this thread was meant to be about. But any way, like I said nice read

[upset]

missmyson said:

I must agree with you yes we do need more MP's on our side. I know our's don't And I'm so thankful John Hemming actually told me I did nothing wrong when they took my son away. And also Ian Joseph

But all ss say is read the notes?

we even went to the appeal court and we were turned down for an appeal.

we don't know what to do next as our son is now with is prospective adopters and he is now calling them mummy and daddy. I said yeah of course he is we haven't been allowed to see him for the last 10 months according to him we are dead (his words on our last contact session with him) we have now been told if we co operate with them we can have in direct contact and if that works direct contact BUT if we take it further they will see us in court.

your appeal was turned down?
that worries me i have have an application pending. r u at rcj?

[tzar]

Make said:

My, My, My. No one replied in my thread when I made it a few weeks ago and look at it now. ;DTotal derailment like a train wreckage. Let me make it perfectly clear to those that are unable to understand simple English . When I made this thread, I was not talking about children that are taken into care or talking about children that are failed by the system. I was talking about parents that fail their own children. Parents that are no good parents and in turn raise rotton, no good, bad mannered children. Let me repeat I was not talking about the system failing children or children being snatched into care, I was talking about parents that fail children. So I really don't understand how this thread got turned into something. Nice read nevertheless.

As a perfectly clear english speaking person, i am commenting on the more topical issue mother of 3 raised.
Also in clear english how exactly is this a "nice read"?
It is a shocking and worrying read that all parents need to be aware of.

[Make it Rain]

missmyson said:

I must agree with you yes we do need more MP's on our side. I know our's don't And I'm so thankful John Hemming actually told me I did nothing wrong when they took my son away. And also Ian Joseph

But all ss say is read the notes?

we even went to the appeal court and we were turned down for an appeal.

we don't know what to do next as our son is now with is prospective adopters and he is now calling them mummy and daddy. I said yeah of course he is we haven't been allowed to see him for the last 10 months according to him we are dead (his words on our last contact session with him) we have now been told if we co operate with them we can have in direct contact and if that works direct contact BUT if we take it further they will see us in court.

Do you mind disclosing why Social services took your son? how old he is and what bobaby you reside in? This thread may not be what I intended it to be about but at the same time it's become very educational. And tek yuh mind offa mi, no more attacking of posters in this thread.

[tzar]

missmyson said:

I must agree with you yes we do need more MP's on our side. I know our's don't And I'm so thankful John Hemming actually told me I did nothing wrong when they took my son away. And also Ian Joseph

But all ss say is read the notes?

we even went to the appeal court and we were turned down for an appeal.

we don't know what to do next as our son is now with is prospective adopters and he is now calling them mummy and daddy. I said yeah of course he is we haven't been allowed to see him for the last 10 months according to him we are dead (his words on our last contact session with him) we have now been told if we co operate with them we can have in direct contact and if that works direct contact BUT if we take it further they will see us in court.

I really feel for you, it must be dreadful. Has ian been able to help you at all? have you tried iwantmummy.com?

[Make it Rain]

tzar said:

Make said:

My, My, My. No one replied in my thread when I made it a few weeks ago and look at it now. ;DTotal derailment like a train wreckage. Let me make it perfectly clear to those that are unable to understand simple English . When I made this thread, I was not talking about children that are taken into care or talking about children that are failed by the system. I was talking about parents that fail their own children. Parents that are no good parents and in turn raise rotton, no good, bad mannered children. Let me repeat I was not talking about the system failing children or children being snatched into care, I was talking about parents that fail children. So I really don't understand how this thread got turned into something. Nice read nevertheless.

As a perfectly clear english speaking person, i am commenting on the more topical issue mother of 3 raised.
Also in clear english how exactly is this a "nice read"?
It is a shocking and worrying read that all parents need to be aware of.

And if you duly noted, I'm the started of this thread and I was making it known what this thread was meant to be about. Because I've seen people in here thinking it was about the system failing children, and good parents that have rotten kids etc etc. And for the record I was not commenting on those have replied in this thread in regards to mother_of_3. Nice read was not to be taken literally

[tzar]

Make said:

tzar said:

As a perfectly clear english speaking person, i am commenting on the more topical issue mother of 3 raised.
Also in clear english how exactly is this a "nice read"?
It is a shocking and worrying read that all parents need to be aware of.

And if you duly noted, I'm the started of this thread and I was making it known what this thread was meant to be about. Because I've seen people in here thinking it was about the system failing children, and good parents that have rotten kids etc etc. And for the record I was not commenting on those have replied in this thread in regards to mother_of_3. Nice read was not to be taken literally

Yes the thread turned into something you didnt intend but the title can cover a range of issues that has become a topic a lot of people feel very passionate about, well done for bringing it up. ;D

[missmyson]

He was taken as he had global delay and according to them we did not understand his needs. and we lived in a 2 bedroom ground floor flat, which was too small for 4 people. and they said he shouldn't share a bedroom with his older brother. (they moved us 6 weeks after he was taken into care) He was 4 years old blonde haired and blue eyed. His older brother was put on the at risk register at the same time but as soon as my youngest was put into care he was taken off and no more involvement.

why the young one's cos they can manilipulate them they can't do that with older children.

at the moment we are waiting for a letter so we can send it to John Hemming to see if it's the same as whats in the judgement. and going from there. hopefully. we went to the royal courts of justice.

[tzar]

missmyson said:

He was taken as he had global delay and according to them we did not understand his needs. and we lived in a 2 bedroom ground floor flat, which was too small for 4 people. and they said he shouldn't share a bedroom with his older brother. (they moved us 6 weeks after he was taken into care) He was 4 years old blonde haired and blue eyed. His older brother was put on the at risk register at the same time but as soon as my youngest was put into care he was taken off and no more involvement.

why the young one's cos they can manilipulate them they can't do that with older children.

at the moment we are waiting for a letter so we can send it to John Hemming to see if it's the same as whats in the judgement. and going from there. hopefully. we went to the royal courts of justice.

See this is where you begin to get the bigger picture of it all, Adoption targets were raised with a cash incentive for meeting those targets, you would think this would lower the amount of children in care??? No as prospective adopting parents largely prefer babies and /or very small children with no problems to take on, which has resulted in fake illnesses such as MSBP among other ridiculous reasons to remove children from perfectly decent parents.

[Make it Rain]

missmyson said:

He was taken as he had global delay and according to them we did not understand his needs. and we lived in a 2 bedroom ground floor flat, which was too small for 4 people. and they said he shouldn't share a bedroom with his older brother. (they moved us 6 weeks after he was taken into care) He was 4 years old blonde haired and blue eyed. His older brother was put on the at risk register at the same time but as soon as my youngest was put into care he was taken off and no more involvement.

why the young one's cos they can manilipulate them they can't do that with older children.

at the moment we are waiting for a letter so we can send it to John Hemming to see if it's the same as whats in the judgement. and going from there. hopefully. we went to the royal courts of justice.

What's global delay?
I guess these people make up rules as they go along. How old was your oldest at the time? Because from what I know (in my bobaby anyway )they don't have no qualms in having siblings sharing rooms. I have three friends that have been re-housed into two bedrooms who had two children. And hear this, their children weren't of the same sex like your children. A girl and a boy had to share a room. I even had a cousin who had to share a room with her two brothers well into her early 20's, So their excuse is crap complete crap. I'm truly sorry to hear this and I hope you all the best in the fight to get back your son.

[Make it Rain]

B O R O U G H that's what it's suppose to say

[missmyson]

Global delay is where he has a delay in speech walking etc in other words he is more like a 2 yr old then say his normal age which at the time he was 4. his eldest brother at the time was 14 yrs old and he also has special needs. We live in Brighton.

and yes they do make up things as you go along you try and co operate with them and they then higher the goal post so you can not reach it. They tried to get me on when I first had my son and had depression that didn't work so they said because I had diabeties I could not care for them. just silly excuses really. then they delve into when you were a child. and if you had a bad childhood and if you did beware they use that against you as well saying you will do the same. all bull if anything you do your upmost to not be the same as the way you were bbabyt up. but that doesn't work either.

[sabrina]

my answers are written in yellow

Tek said:

Please to tell me how I handled this topic
in a manner that is insensitive

By asking questions?
you are free to ask what you like but its necessary to avoid intensionally upsetting and offending others

By giving my opinion, which I must note two other posters did as well, because the story was full of contradictions and inconsistencies?
yes there are others who made derogatory comments but i found yours to be most upsetting although it was not directed at me.
i didn't find anything contradictory or inconsistent in mother of 3's story. enlighten me please.......

For me saying that Mother of 3, should of made another thread todiscuss her plight, instead of writing it in a thread titled "WUTLISS PARENTS". Because this thread was obviously about parents failing children and NOT the system.
her writing on this thread has nothing to do with it. not all parents are failing their children IT IS the system.

For me saying that many in society will feel that mothers who have had their children taken into care are WUTLISS. Then added that's NOT my personal opinion
i don't believe that many people in society feels that mothers who have their children taken into care is worthless. yes you say this is not your opinion but you referred to mother of 3 as worthless(correct me if I'm wrong on that)

I will not apologise for what I said in the other thread
smh

If the word "BRAT" is taken as an offense, that's you and parents problem not mines.
this is the reason i asked if you had kids because i doubt a mother would of made that comment during discussions on the topic.

The message is still the same, whether if I used the word "CHILDREN" or BRATS.
its offensive to use the term brats on this subject especially when you not referring to your own child/ren

IF YOU feel that ME telling a person to get their children back is sick, I really FEEL sorry for YOU.
i don't understand what you trying to say here

I've already apologised for my harsh words in THIS thread BUT I wont be apologising for what should I said in the other thread.
i thought you said you were a passionate person?? OK my mistake

[sabrina]

Tek said:

Honestly, I don't think I will be able to come back in this thread...Honestly I don't.

Even though I come across harsh, I am a very compassionate person.

I'm fearful, very fearful for mother's and children in this country. A tear has rolled down my left cheek without permission, by reading stories on that site, parent had posted.

World Order in full effect..They want us and our children to be zombies. And the best way to do that, is get them whilst their young...

Nooooooooooooooo
Come back you haven't heard the half of it yet

[Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi PLEASE]

sabrina said:

my answers are written in yellow

Tek said:

Please to tell me how I handled this topic
in a manner that is insensitive

By asking questions?
you are free to ask what you like but its necessary to avoid intensionally upsetting and offending others

By giving my opinion, which I must note two other posters did as well, because the story was full of contradictions and inconsistencies?
yes there are others who made derogatory comments but i found yours to be most upsetting although it was not directed at me.
i didn't find anything contradictory or inconsistent in mother of 3's story. enlighten me please.......

For me saying that Mother of 3, should of made another thread todiscuss her plight, instead of writing it in a thread titled "WUTLISS PARENTS". Because this thread was obviously about parents failing children and NOT the system.
her writing on this thread has nothing to do with it. not all parents are failing their children IT IS the system.

For me saying that many in society will feel that mothers who have had their children taken into care are WUTLISS. Then added that's NOT my personal opinion
i don't believe that many people in society feels that mothers who have their children taken into care is worthless. yes you say this is not your opinion but you referred to mother of 3 as worthless(correct me if I'm wrong on that)

I will not apologise for what I said in the other thread
smh

If the word "BRAT" is taken as an offense, that's you and parents problem not mines.
this is the reason i asked if you had kids because i doubt a mother would of made that comment during discussions on the topic.

The message is still the same, whether if I used the word "CHILDREN" or BRATS.
its offensive to use the term brats on this subject especially when you not referring to your own child/ren

IF YOU feel that ME telling a person to get their children back is sick, I really FEEL sorry for YOU.
i don't understand what you trying to say here

I've already apologised for my harsh words in THIS thread BUT I wont be apologising for what should I said in the other thread.
i thought you said you were a passionate person?? OK my mistake

Where did I refer to mother of 3 are WUTLISS.
Yes you are WRONG and that's WHY I plainly stated that IT'S NOT MY OPINION.

PASSIONATE in the sense of my writing.

-YOU asked if I had children at apporox. 7.50pm
-YOU made YOUR hi thread at approx. 7.52pm
-Two minutes after asking ME your questions
-I made my brats comment at approx 8.49pm
-That's a hour apart, from when YOU asked me those three questions to ME referring Parents children as brats.

So YOU couldn't possibly be asking if I had children because of the brats comment I made.
Stop lying!

You've already said that the reason why YOU wanted to know if I was a mother was to get an idea of what sort of person I am..

Anyway I'm didn't come into this thread to argue with you or any one else. I've come back to read

[sabrina]

Tek said:

So YOU couldn't possibly be asking if I had children because of the brats comment I made.
Stop lying!

You've already said that the reason why YOU wanted to know if I was a mother was to get an idea of what sort of person I am..

Anyway I'm didn't come into this thread to argue with you or any one else. I've come back to read

it is one of the reasons i want to know if you have children and your age. either you are very young and immature or there is underlying mental health issues that needs to be addressed.

[missmyson]

or there is underlying mental health issues that needs to be addressed.[/quote]


I think you have hit the nail right on the head there Sabrina

[sabrina]

tzar said:

missmyson said:

I must agree with you yes we do need more MP's on our side. I know our's don't And I'm so thankful John Hemming actually told me I did nothing wrong when they took my son away. And also Ian Joseph

But all ss say is read the notes?

we even went to the appeal court and we were turned down for an appeal.

we don't know what to do next as our son is now with is prospective adopters and he is now calling them mummy and daddy. I said yeah of course he is we haven't been allowed to see him for the last 10 months according to him we are dead (his words on our last contact session with him) we have now been told if we co operate with them we can have in direct contact and if that works direct contact BUT if we take it further they will see us in court.

I really feel for you, it must be dreadful. Has ian been able to help you at all? have you tried iwantmummy.com?

Hi tzar.
I googled iwantmummy.com but didn't find anything. Can you post the link please?

[Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi PLEASE]

sabrina said:

Tek said:

So YOU couldn't possibly be asking if I had children because of the brats comment I made.
Stop lying!

You've already said that the reason why YOU wanted to know if I was a mother was to get an idea of what sort of person I am..

Anyway I'm didn't come into this thread to argue with you or any one else. I've come back to read

it is one of the reasons i want to know if you have children and your age. either you are very young and immature or there is underlying mental health issues that needs to be addressed.

Wow! is Your big mighty fonts are suppose to scare me or something?
Don't get mad by suggesting I have a mental illness, I'm immature, I'm childish and blah, blah, blah.
You were just caught LYING, being INCONSISTENT. Suggesting that YOU asked me a question because I made a comment, when in fact I made my comment a HOUR later AFTER YOU had asked ME YOUR three questions.

You cannot refute that and have turned to what many will do when caught out in a lie. Name calling! tut! tut! tut!

Sabrina you silly bitch, I'm just a internet personality.
I already said I didn't come back in this thread to argue with any one, BUT it seems that YOU couldn't comprehend that. Now makes ME think if YOUR children learnign disabilities are genetic. Makes me really ponder.

I really should be asking YOU if YOUR mentally ill and that's why YOUR children were taken away from YOU. Now I wonder if YOU have a habit of keep changing your stories and that's why YOUR children haven't come back home yet. Y

You asked for it, so I'm giving you EXACTLY what your you want. A f**king show!
Satisfied? Or do You want more?

[sp]

What the hell happened in here?

[Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi PLEASE]

My age?
You didn't ask me MY age
Another lie I see, now what else have YOU been lying about? hmmmm

[Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi PLEASE]

sp said:

What the hell happened in here?

What's happened here is that me, myself and I, has been holding it down for the comments that you, myself and Why had made in regards to mother of 3 story.

I in turn saw my error in my ways and apologised for what I had said and to any one I had offended, admitted that I was being ignorant and would like to be educated on this subject matter.

UNFORTUNATELY some slow, dumb bitch doesn't seem to comprehend that and what's to go back to shit that was said yesterday. And doesn't understand that I didn't come in this thread looking for any arguments with any one and now has the audacity to say I'm mentally ill, childish and all other shit because I caught her out in a lie. Tut! Tut! Tut!

[sabrina]

Tek said:

sp said:

What the hell happened in here?

What's happened here is that me, myself and I, has been holding it down for the comments that you, myself and Why had made in regards to mother of 3 story.

I in turn saw my error in my ways and apologised for what I had said and to any one I had offended, admitted that I was being ignorant and would like to be educated on this subject matter.

UNFORTUNATELY some slow, dumb bitch doesn't seem to comprehend that and what's to go back to shit that was said yesterday. And doesn't understand that I didn't come in this thread looking for any arguments with any one and now has the audacity to say I'm mentally ill, childish and all other shit because I caught her out in a lie. Tut! Tut! Tut!

The only show you are putting on is the one that shows how stupid you really are and the fact that you cant even hold a conversation or take part in a discussion without using obscene language or making derogatory remarks.

[missmyson]

:oNo need to call people names. especially as you don't know the person.

[missmyson]

sabrina said:

Tek said:

What's happened here is that me, myself and I, has been holding it down for the comments that you, myself and Why had made in regards to mother of 3 story.

I in turn saw my error in my ways and apologised for what I had said and to any one I had offended, admitted that I was being ignorant and would like to be educated on this subject matter.

UNFORTUNATELY some slow, dumb bitch doesn't seem to comprehend that and what's to go back to shit that was said yesterday. And doesn't understand that I didn't come in this thread looking for any arguments with any one and now has the audacity to say I'm mentally ill, childish and all other shit because I caught her out in a lie. Tut! Tut! Tut!

The only show you are putting on is the one that shows how stupid you really are and the fact that you cant even hold a conversation or take part in a discussion without using obscene language or making derogatory remarks.

Well done Sabrina agrre with you

[tzar]

iwantmummy.org/default.aspx

Here you go sabrina, if you send an e-mail to cally she will get back to you as soon as she can, she is very busy helping others in situations similar to yours. good luck.x

[sabrina]

tzar said:

iwantmummy.org/default.aspx

Here you go sabrina, if you send an e-mail to cally she will get back to you as soon as she can, she is very busy helping others in situations similar to yours. good luck.x

Thank you tzar
I'm browsing that site now.... ;D

[Tek Yuh Mind Offa Mi PLEASE]

sabrina said:

Tek said:

What's happened here is that me, myself and I, has been holding it down for the comments that you, myself and Why had made in regards to mother of 3 story.

I in turn saw my error in my ways and apologised for what I had said and to any one I had offended, admitted that I was being ignorant and would like to be educated on this subject matter.

UNFORTUNATELY some slow, dumb bitch doesn't seem to comprehend that and what's to go back to shit that was said yesterday. And doesn't understand that I didn't come in this thread looking for any arguments with any one and now has the audacity to say I'm mentally ill, childish and all other shit because I caught her out in a lie. Tut! Tut! Tut!

The only show you are putting on is the one that shows how stupid you really are and the fact that you cant even hold a conversation or take part in a discussion without using obscene language or making derogatory remarks.

And YOU do know in internet terms large fonts signify some one SHOUTING. So why you shouting for?
Isn't shouting to some one that's suppose to be stupid, a childish thing for an adult like yourself to do?
Stooping down to my childish level...LOL



By the way, all your key stroking and large fonts doesn't take away from the fact that were caught lying and the fact that YOU can't or even tried to refute that fact...

Zippity--do-da-zippity-day-my-oh-my-what-a-wonderful-day

Oh and to that drone, Sabrina is not YOUR shepherd. You silly lost sheep