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Post by sexy 18 on Mar 10, 2006 10:12:03 GMT
I feel very disappointed in the lack of good men lately especially if trying to find any in dancehall scene.most men bring a lot of drama in to relationship.most of them already have kids and then baby mother wants to fight you or he says he is not involve with anyone but you but we all know better than that.I mean I will not be subjected to fighting over any man however some girls like to pass there place and you cant leave him because probably you love him.but you dont want anyone else
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Post by LISA BRITISH on Mar 10, 2006 11:11:39 GMT
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Post by Attitude on Mar 11, 2006 11:10:09 GMT
I see what ur saying Lisa british and ur probably more than right but i'm sure u class urself as a good jamaican/british and u go to dance so why cant any man in a dance be the same too?
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Post by she say on Mar 11, 2006 16:36:57 GMT
I agree with Lisa-british, u cant go dance and expect to find a good man there - well not unless u r the kind of woman who studies the dance scene and you do not have any other priorities more than what ur gonna wear and how ur hair is gonna look tonight. Its a simple conflict of interests. When ur going to bed, hes getting ready to go out, when ur just waking hes just coming in, when u just come in, hes just waking - its a match made in hell
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Post by Attitude on Mar 11, 2006 20:48:16 GMT
so what if u arent one of those girls can u still find a man in a dance? and if u dont mind can i draw it to ur situation cos ur man is at every dance so is there a conflict of interest there?
I totally disagree. There isnt a best or better place to find a man period, it all depends on who is who.
Also as for the female u painted a picture of she say ? can i ask why she's gotta be like that? are u sayin that only girls like that match the type of man that is in there?
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Post by she say on Mar 12, 2006 2:00:16 GMT
Attitude i am not sure what it is that u r saying. Yes its true that my man is at every dance thats how i kbnow that 'dance man' are so hard to live with. Please clarify what you meant - im confused.
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Post by Attitude on Mar 12, 2006 13:38:16 GMT
Ok,what im tryna ask is What if u are a hard working girl,who for example goes to uni and works and loves dances...can u still find a good man in a dance?
Also u said that when ur going to bed,hes gettin ready to go out etc etc and therefore its a match made in hell. Are u saying that you are ur man are a match made in hell ? cos like i said he's always out....if so why bother...cos mi hear seh hell is not a nice place to be!
Isn't it more the case that u can find a man in a dance but it just takes a certain level of understanding between the two if he still decides to go out nuff when u 2 are together
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Post by nevaeh on Mar 12, 2006 20:26:14 GMT
she say u r stereotyping the females who go to dance. I myself am a professional woman who attends most of the big dances when i feel and no my prorities are not what to wear or getting my hair done at all. In the dance u get people from all walks of life. Each to their own, yes i agree with you the dance is not really the place to find a man but it has nothing to do with the kind of woman you are You obviously represent these woman as your man is doing exactly what your telling attitude i.e getting in as your getting up so who's priorities are twisted honey she say people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones get your s**t together before u talk because if we judge you on your man and his actions then girl you need counselling stop judging
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Post by she say on Mar 12, 2006 20:38:52 GMT
ok, Attitude, i think i understand what you mean now. Lets get the first thing straight - when i was giving the examples of 'when he gets up........' and so on, i wasnt talking about my specific relationship but just in general. My life isnt really like that on a daily basis but i was just giving an example of two conflicting routines.
And remember all of what im saying is just my opinion, and what i think - im not saying that its right. And you need to remember that there is a difference between people who pick up themselves and go dance every night because they want to and those that have to because for example, they have to promote their dance or they have to keep their name calling.
When i say people that go dance i am talking about the kind of people that you see out every night of the week, not the people who you see on the weekends or at big dances only.
I guess its just my belief that if you want a certain life it cant really work with the hardcore dance men/women - i could be wrong, but men who go dance regular must be easily tempted by the scantily clad women dancing to "dont u wish ur girlfriend was hot like me?"
I think that you have a valid point when you said that its all about coming to an understanding once you are together but what about the people who cant or dont want to change?
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Post by KEEP IT REAL on Mar 12, 2006 20:47:20 GMT
DUTTY she say U NEED TO LEAVE PEOPLE'S BUSINESS ALONE BECAUSE ANYONE WHO CAN LAY DOWN WITH himRUGGIE SHOULD NOT BE GIVING ADVICE AT ALL
U R NOBODY TO TALK ABOUT WOMEN IN THE DANCE BECAUSE THATS WHAT FEEDS YOU STRAIGHT
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Post by Attitude on Mar 12, 2006 21:06:19 GMT
Come on now,the attacking business really aint necessary. If u dont agree with what she says just ask her to explain herself. Bwoy!
Anyway she say , i feel u on certain aspects. But im confused cos obviously yes u are giving ur opinion but what u gotta appreciate is that cos i know that ur with a particular 'dance man' that i'm gonna be thinkin aye...how can she say that when shes in that same situation. I mean why do u think it can work for u and cant work for no one else.
u also have to remember that men aint interested in the same ol' same ol' hype up woman that go to dance regular,its the weekend,big dance people u need to worried about....(not u personally but u know)
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Post by Kay on Mar 12, 2006 21:36:22 GMT
I agree with Lisa-british, u cant go dance and expect to find a good man there - well not unless u r the kind of woman who studies the dance scene and you do not have any other priorities more than what ur gonna wear and how ur hair is gonna look tonight. Its a simple conflict of interests. When ur going to bed, hes getting ready to go out, when ur just waking hes just coming in, when u just come in, hes just waking - its a match made in hell No disrespect she say but you do come across as a hypocrite. You said, you can't go dance and expect to find a good man there unless you are the kind of woman who studies the dance scene. So that means to say that your man is no good or even if he isn't, you must be one of those women who studies the dance scene. If your gonna dig a L , make sure you dig one for yourself.
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Post by she say on Mar 12, 2006 23:34:35 GMT
Kay please dont call me a hypocrite. U dont know me like that. It is possible for me to have an opinion despite my personal circumstances and i made sure that i said its just my opinion - im not saying that im right thats just what i think. Its not like im saying that women that study the dance scene are bad, its just that they do not have the priorities that other women do. If i never has so much on my plate i would probably study the dance scene too - england is boring there is no m,more enjoyment more than dance anyway but 4 me personally, i have other things to worry about.
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Post by Attitude on Mar 13, 2006 0:09:40 GMT
Me personally,i work and study AND yes i do "study" the dance scene, i dont go out every night but believe me if i could i would, simply because i enjoy it!
If i find a man in a dance then i'm gonna be happy cos at least i know he knows how to enjoy himself and we share an interest in something i really enjoy and love.
she say based on ur personal circumstances are u saying its not adviceable to have a man that goes to dances?
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Post by Attitude on Mar 13, 2006 0:14:23 GMT
P.S Back to the question. I agree with sexy 18....it seems as if there are no good jamaican men anymore. They seem to love to cheat and feel like its ok. I rate those women that can shout up in the camera and big up their man and even u she say who can come on here bold as brass and seh yea i'm Ragga's wife...cos these days u nuh know what they are up 2.
I mean i dont know about the rest of u but i cant take that kinda f**kries lying down and just say oh well at least he's coming home to me,cos when he's coming home to me so are his friends.........STD and possibly sick too!!
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Post by she say on Mar 13, 2006 14:42:03 GMT
I agree with you attitude, If i could go uni work take care of my kids and rave every night i would too - but that wasnt the issue. It was can u find a good man at a dance. When i said no you cant i wasnt talking about the kind of men that go dance once to let loose and enjoy themselves i was talking about the men who feel like they have to go dance EVERY NIGHT. And even then its just my opinion because i have never met a man at a dance, even my 'current partner' and i did not meet in the dance scene - i just dont feel that it is an appropiate setting for ME to meet that someone i could spend the rest of my life with.
Thanks for reminding everyone who man man is! i have intentionally not mentioned him coz y'all say that i big him up too much but i cool anyway!
And when i say study the dance scene i dont think you know what i mean I mean people with no other priorities other than dance - u hace people like that. Im
and in response to your last 2 paragraphs - i understand what u mean about women bigging up their men and not knowing what the men are up 2, but if it did become public knowledge that my man had another woman, the shame would be just as much for me as it would be if i didnt ever big him up on here because everyone that knows him knows me as him woman, and everyone knows how i feel about him. Im not gonna say i dont care what he does as long as he comes home because sick is out there and he could come home with it but when i have no proof or evidence of anything i have no choice but to trust him and just keep both eyes wide open.
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Post by Kay on Mar 13, 2006 15:44:29 GMT
P.S Back to the question. I agree with sexy 18....it seems as if there are no good jamaican men anymore. They seem to love to cheat and feel like its ok. I rate those women that can shout up in the camera and big up their man and even u she say who can come on here bold as brass and seh yea i'm Ragga's wife...cos these days u nuh know what they are up 2. I mean i dont know about the rest of u but i cant take that kinda f**kries lying down and just say oh well at least he's coming home to me,cos when he's coming home to me so are his friends.........STD and possibly sick too!! I agree with what you say, but i personally feel that you can't put all the blame on the man. how many times have you heard that a man cheats on his woman but she still takes him back? It's situations like that where the man will continue to cheat because they know that the woman is going to take them back. I ain't gonna lie. I've done this myself. So until some of us women start to learn not to take these men back, things well never change. Attitude and she say , big up yourselves.
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Post by LISA BRITISH on Mar 13, 2006 18:52:24 GMT
i agree wid kay, but i know nuff girls who knows there man has a women/babymother and still wants to sleep wid them. what is all that about there are alot of girls with low self esteem and will settle for sharing. knowing the man would never leave or make there wifey find out about this situation.....
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Post by open minded on Mar 13, 2006 20:46:43 GMT
Just because a women will accept that a man has a women/ babymother does not mean that they have low self esteem. It may be that is just how the woman wants it. 'No strings attached'. The man is just around when he is needed. So theres no need for the other party to find out!
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Post by Attitude on Mar 13, 2006 21:49:24 GMT
ok so if you daughter met her man in the same circumstances as u would u tell advice her against it?
My bad if u were offended for me mentioning who ur man is, i thought it was more or less common knowledge on here whether or not the name was mentioned or not. Either way if u waan big up ur man ah ur business memba dat.
Big up Kay as well, i know exactly what u mean. I think its cos we women weigh up everything and throw in our feelings and some how come to the conclusion that tings will be better next time!.....yea right
On the baby mother issue,thats a mad one and i was talkin 2 my friend abt it 2day.What do u do when a man tells u he has a baby mother? do u assume that hes still sleeping with her and start sumtin or do u just run weh after hearing he has a baby mother period?? knowing that its 2006 and its rare to find a man without pickney!
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Post by she say on Mar 14, 2006 20:22:46 GMT
If my daughter met a man in a dance i wouldnt automatically be against it but then i hope that my daughter doesnt grow up to love the dance scene. Maybe im biased or something but i just believe that whilst you can meea decent man there its just not the ideal place to LOOK for one. People might think im not in a situation to say that coz my man goes to every dance but maybe subconciously that why i feel that way.
On to the babymother topic, i would be kinda weary of men who have more than one, im not in a situation to say that i dont want to be with a man with kids coz i got kids of my own and i expect a man that im with to treat them like his own.
As for the girls who are prepared to be with a man when he has a woman - i pity them. Women should value themselves more. Some woman will claim to want a no strings attatched relationship but i dont buy it.
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Post by open minded on Mar 14, 2006 21:32:45 GMT
Pity yourself she say - If a woman is single and choses to be with a man at her convenience, with no strings attached, why do you feel that they have low value of themselves?
You are the one who should value yourself more because clearly you are not truly happy that your man goes to every dance and sleeps out your bed a day time. Who wants that life?
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Post by she say on Mar 15, 2006 17:54:42 GMT
Open minded please leave me alone. I didnt direct use your name in any of my posts so i see no need for you to use my name in yours. U dont know anything about my life or my relationship so please do not attempt to involve yourself in it. U should be mature enough to be able to read a post that u object to and reply without insulting people. And u call urself 'open minded'? do better than that, if u disagreed with something that i said - no problem, but attacking me persoanlly is childish and unnecessary. For the record i am happy in my relationship and my man dont sleep out my bed a daytime.
However in response to your post, if a woman choses to be with a man at her convenience there is nothing wrong with that but i see something wrong with a woman being with a man who she knows has a woman already, i just think that she is selling herself short and deserves more - thats my opinion, which im entitled to.
All the same big up urself.
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Post by open minded on Mar 15, 2006 22:08:12 GMT
she say - I'm not into going round corners. My post was referring to a comment that you had made about self confidence. So how is this attacking you personally? You mad e the statement. I gave my opinion which I'm entitled to.
It seems like you are really taking this w L topic too personal.
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Post by she say on Mar 16, 2006 5:03:08 GMT
Im not akin the topic 2 personally. So far, nothing i have posted has refered to my own life its just my opinion. The only thing i took personal was u saying that u pity me and ur references 2 what u believe to be my life. I just posted my opinion, if that is contrast to the way that u choose to live - thats cool, u can say that but its the way u chose to say it. Read back my messgae dated March 14, and then read ur reply and tell me if i honestly took things too personal. Its not a matter of me taking things TOO personal - u adressed me personally.
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Post by see deh now on Mar 16, 2006 14:48:02 GMT
de w L a dem a f**k batty and a bleach.. dem need to get a job.
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Post by LISA BRITISH on Mar 16, 2006 20:54:52 GMT
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Post by mummabritish on Mar 18, 2006 1:20:53 GMT
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Post by Attitude on Mar 20, 2006 12:57:18 GMT
I'm startin to wonder whether i should sacrifice what i like an go for a british man cos lookin at the himruggie forum and the comments on other forums it looks like when ur with a jamaican man,everyone else is too,next girl,next girls bredrins,cousins etc. Thats all long!
But who is to blame for that? is it jamaican man cos they think its ok to have x amount of women?! or is it like someone above said,is it womens fault bcos women take them back after they know theyve cheated cos they feel cah they are the wife like that means something! PLEASE! it clearly means nothing!
Bwoy shame i cant stomach white man cos at least i know how dat one goes
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Post by sweet on Apr 2, 2006 11:05:36 GMT
yes i agree with u. this is what i like sencable conversation non of that crap about Ja vs Uk nonsence any way back to the topic. I porsonaliy think that there is no good men in dance (ref) to the ones that goes there every days of the week n stand up with champaine in a them hand. thay r broke ass no good low lifes, with a lots of babymothers they dont look after there fids. I am a jamaican who go 2 dance n no i do not go every day. nether do i bleach my skin i am naturally brown very atrictive if i may say so my self.Not that i am saying that my black sisters arnt well hat but only when thay keep it real. The point that i am trying 2 make is that when i do go 2 dance a lot a men want me up but i now thay r not the kind of men u can make a home with, all there money gose on is raving. most of them dont now how to have a conversation thay are arrognat. some of us women are the reason why these men are the way thay are. Wi go a dance a chat shit up in a the video light like big up be no name man If u say is name u a go get u face busup so yes them feel big n important. what i am saying is respect if we respect each other as women them there will be good men out there. i have a man and no he is not jamaican because i have lost confidant in jamaican men. When i go out and thay asked me 4 my number i say no. thay insist like thay always do. I gave them my boyfriend number when thay ring its n african i hope it will make them think twice, why am i with a african because as i tipe he is sitting next 2 me studying he goe2 is gooooooood gooooooood job n he loves me alot, i call him when ever i like because he is my man n no one else. I am not swearing 4 him but weve been 2gather 3 yeas n he hasnt given me any reason 2 think any think less of him tan the real man he is. To all the women out there who have some good JA men out there good on u when i say good i mean good dont get it twisted.
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